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Re: Why was the Book of Enoch Rejected in the Canon?

Posted: July 13th, 2018, 12:46 pm
by FearNaught
You're not going all KJV Only on me, are ya? And none of those things have to do with hiding flat earth. If you believe a crime has been committed, and you are sure you know the motive and all the perpetrators, then present your case to God, because if you're wrong, you'll be held to account for false accusations.

Re: Why was the Book of Enoch Rejected in the Canon?

Posted: July 14th, 2018, 7:56 am
by Paul Zietsman
Firstly, you are dead wrong about me being "KJV Only", in fact that is only one of my Bibles, so please do not stereotype anybody who happens to allude to the fact that there had been tampering with some manuscripts. Secondly, it seems rather irrational, to me, that you could comprehend that some books might have been removed from the Bible, and even allude that "they" would not have stopped at that, but would have gone further, and then outright reject the idea of manuscript tampering with such a strong reaction??
Anyhow, it seems as if you have drawn a line with this discussion, so I am not going to engage you further in this subject.

Re: Why was the Book of Enoch Rejected in the Canon?

Posted: July 14th, 2018, 8:05 am
by DaveyT
Paul,
Good video, I agree with most of what is said however, we do need to seek Spiritual discernment regarding such things I'm sure you will agree. After watching that video, I watched another by a fellow, Steve, "Think About It" YT channel. I don't know anything about this guy but I agree for the most part as to the motive for the rejection of Enoch. If anyone knows anymore about this Steve, please inform me.

Re: Why was the Book of Enoch Rejected in the Canon?

Posted: July 14th, 2018, 8:17 am
by FearNaught
Paul Zietsman wrote: July 14th, 2018, 7:56 am Firstly, you are dead wrong about me being "KJV Only", in fact that is only one of my Bibles, so please do not stereotype anybody who happens to allude to the fact that there had been tampering with some manuscripts. Secondly, it seems rather irrational, to me, that you could comprehend that some books might have been removed from the Bible, and even allude that "they" would not have stopped at that, but would have gone further, and then outright reject the idea of manuscript tampering with such a strong reaction??
Anyhow, it seems as if you have drawn a line with this discussion, so I am not going to engage you further in this subject.
I only asked, I did not say you were KJVO. I am aware of tampering even with the original language texts. Please do not stereotype anyone who thinks there were legitimate reasons for rejecting certain books from the inspired canon.

I'm thinking of quitting the forum anyway, so no problem.

Re: Why was the Book of Enoch Rejected in the Canon?

Posted: July 14th, 2018, 8:47 am
by Paul Zietsman
David,
I just watched the video you posted, and on face value agree with all this guy has said. I also like the fact that this guy reads wider than just the KJV. I know nothing about him yet, so I do not know what other things he teaches. Let's look into it.
Regarding the video I had posted, it's not that excellent, and some of the people speaking on it have other issues I do not agree with, but what is on that video seems a good compilation, answering the most common questions about Enoch. It was the best "all rounder" I had found. Maybe this one you posted is a better option, wish I had found it sooner...I do not mind removing the one I posted. I definitely do not endorse everything on SkyWatch TV or what Steve Quayle says.

Re: Why was the Book of Enoch Rejected in the Canon?

Posted: July 14th, 2018, 11:09 am
by DaveyT
No, leave it up brother.

Re: Why was the Book of Enoch Rejected in the Canon?

Posted: July 14th, 2018, 11:15 am
by DaveyT
Paula,

Stay on the forum please.
We're not always going to agree so we all need to disagree in grace, preferring one another.

You can simply read without responding unless you want to.

In Christ,
David

Re: Why was the Book of Enoch Rejected in the Canon?

Posted: July 14th, 2018, 11:32 am
by FearNaught
DaveyT wrote: July 14th, 2018, 11:15 am Paula,

Stay on the forum please.
We're not always going to agree so we all need to disagree in grace, preferring one another.

You can simply read without responding unless you want to.

In Christ,
David
Ok, but my issue is how people jump to wild conclusions on the basis of hasty scanning of someone's words. I'm so tired of that, spent many years in message boards. Not sure what the purpose would be of only reading.

Re: Why was the Book of Enoch Rejected in the Canon?

Posted: July 14th, 2018, 12:52 pm
by DaveyT
I know and I plead guilty with that assumption regarding the epistle of James. I just didn't think on that one before hitting submit.

Re: Why was the Book of Enoch Rejected in the Canon?

Posted: October 1st, 2018, 8:23 am
by Paul Zietsman
I have come across another very interesting Scripture, that seems to imply that Jesus Himself alluded to the Book of Enoch as Scripture.

Mat 22:29-30 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Which “scriptures” was Jesus referring to, that state that angels do not marry?
You will not find it anywhere in the “Canon” Old Testament, so He was referring to Scripture which is not in the Canon of today .
In fact, the only book that declares this, is the Book of Enoch…

God’s reply to the Watchers:
1 Enoch 15:3-7 You being spiritual, holy, and possessing a life which is eternal, have polluted yourselves with women; have begotten in carnal blood; have lusted in the blood of men; and have done as those who are flesh and blood do. These however die and perish. Therefore have I given to them wives, that they might cohabit with them; that sons might be born of them; and that this might be transacted upon earth. But you from the beginning were made spiritual, possessing a life which is eternal, and not subject to death for ever. Therefore I made not wives for you, because, being spiritual, your dwelling is in heaven.
Thus, Jesus accused the Saducees that they did not know what the Scriptures said, and promptly gave the answer found in Enoch.
Thus, Jesus referenced content of Enoch as Scripture….